AMY GOODMAN: You have an epilogue in your book, “Yemen and Palestine.”

VIJAY PRASHAD: Yeah, so, if you consider that there have been two situations where the bombing has been ruthless—in Palestine, of course, there is an occupation, and the occupation has been on, you know, for decades. But in the last 15 years, Israel has, in a punctuated fashion, bombed Gaza. And it’s bombed Gaza, been resupplied by the West, received diplomatic backing by the West, has not able to, you know, receive, I think, the criticism it deserves from the so-called international community.

Yemen, since March of 2015, has been ruthlessly bombed. The poorest Arab country is being destroyed by the richest Arab country. And nobody has been able to properly criticize the Saudis, because they have been essentially backed by the United States, rearmed by them, etc.

And the reason I put them together is that there is a international sensibility to support the Palestinian cause. Every time there’s a bombing in Gaza, there are demonstrations. There is heartfelt, I think, condemnation. But with this bombing in Yemen, there is virtual silence. You know, the very people that are out on the streets demanding that Israel stop bombing Gaza need to be out on the streets demanding that Saudi Arabia stop this murderous war against Yemen.

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: And I’d like to ask you: How do you see the failure of the Arab Spring even to consolidate any kind of progressive left movement in any of the countries we’ve been talking about? Why has it been so difficult?

VIJAY PRASHAD: Well, Juan, firstly, the question of an Arab Spring is a misnomer, because this was really a spring in some Arab countries. You know, it’s interesting that most of the countries that were Arab nationalist regimes, you know, relatively secular regimes, experienced the depth of the Arab Spring, not the monarchies. You know, there was no real Arab Spring in Jordan, no real Arab Spring in Morocco, no real Arab Spring in Saudi Arabia, and in Bahrain, which is one of the smallest monarchies, it was crushed. So, this Arab Spring was largely the spring of the exhaustion of Arab nationalism.

And in that sense, we need to understand that this was less an Arab Spring and more the opening of an Arab civil war. You know, this civil war has been going on since the 1950s between Arab nationalist governments and the monarchies. And the weakness of the Arab nationalist governments, their own weakness, their own use of brutal means against the people, their own economic collapse, had weakened them to such a point that when the uprisings began, the monarchies took advantage of it, and they entered to—in a sense, I would say, to destroy the capacity of ordinary people to build their own society. So, it’s less an Arab Spring, more an Arab civil war, that the monarchies seem to have won.