AMY GOODMAN: Finally, President Trump, in a late-night move, announcement, the White House announced that it will stop paying billions of dollars in federal subsidies to insurance companies to subsidize low-income people’s healthcare plans. Can you respond to this move?

REP. LUIS GUTIÉRREZ: Yeah, the poor, that finally had access to healthcare, the working poor that had access to healthcare, mothers, most mothers with—you know, single mothers with children, the elderly, those that we finally were able to bring inside the realm of safety of healthcare, that’s who he wants to take away healthcare from. And then he wants to give—wants to allow these minimalist insurance policies so employers can give that to their employees, so that people will once again—I hate to, but it’s true—so that people, again, because they don’t have appropriate healthcare, will again die in this, the richest, most powerful nation in the world. The president of the United States wants to do this, clearly. Here’s what they’re going to do the money, Amy. It’s no coincidence that their next move is to give a tax break to the wealthiest in this nation. And they need to balance their budget in order to give that tax break to the wealthiest by taking it from the poorest in the nation. I think it’s just so shameful.

AMY GOODMAN: Congressman Luis Gutiérrez, we thank you so much for being with us, Democrat of Illinois—

REP. LUIS GUTIÉRREZ: Thank you.

AMY GOODMAN: —co-chair of the Immigration Task Force of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.

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